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Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 05:05:33
From: Space Digest maintainer <digests@isu.isunet.edu>
Reply-To: Space-request@isu.isunet.edu
Subject: Space Digest V15 #601
To: Space Digest Readers
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Space Digest Sun, 27 Dec 92 Volume 15 : Issue 601
Today's Topics:
"Moonraker" -- fact or fiction?
*** BUSSARD RAMSCOOP ***
I thinI see our problem. (Was Re: Terminal Velocity of DCX?
Justification
LEI financing
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Date: 27 Dec 92 06:13:04 GMT
From: Eidetics Int'l <eidetics@nic.cerf.net>
Subject: "Moonraker" -- fact or fiction?
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space,sci.astro
From Jon Volkoff, mail address eidetics@cerf.net
MBADBH@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com (David B. Horvath, CDP @ Hidden - I don't speak for
them) writes:
>> <Lots of stuff deleted>
>
>Doesn't this remind you of a plot from a James Bond movie? Moonraker?
>
>Shuttle takes off from transport 747 causing the 747 to crash...
and
BrianT@cup.portal.com (Brian Stuart Thorn @ The Portal System (TM)) writes:
><...>
>However the discussion, very weird discussion, that you dropped
>in upon was about lighting the engines on the back of the 747 and
>going into orbit, a'la 'Moonraker'. Suffice it to say that CAPS LOCK
>seems to have trouble differentiating fact from fiction.
Glad you guys brought it up. I just happen to have a piece from Dr. Beter
Audio Letter #56 that you might find interesting with regard to "Moonraker"
and the rest of the James Bond adventures, and the background of their
author, the late Ian Fleming.
"AUDIO LETTER(R)" is a registered trademark of Audio Books,
Inc., a Texas corporation, which originally produced this tape
recording. Reproduced under open license granted by Audio
Books, Inc.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
This is the Dr. Beter AUDIO LETTER, 1629 K St. NW, Washington,
D.C. 20006
Hello, my friends, this is Dr. Beter. Today is July 30, 1980,
and this is my AUDIO LETTER No. 56.
<...>
My three special topics this month are:
Topic #1--IAN FLEMING AND THE FT. KNOX GOLD SCANDAL
<...>
Topic #1--Not many years ago millions were fascinated by the
fictional exploits of an imaginary British spy. His name was
James Bond, and he was the creation of the late British author
Ian Fleming. It was Fleming more than anyone else who created
the image of the modern "super spy." All the Fleming spy stories
had two major characteristics in common that made them stand out.
For one thing, every story was about a world-shaking situation
which was kept secret from the public. The other common
ingredient was always a dazzling display of secret high
technologies of every description--things unknown to the public.
These two unique features of his stories eventually catapulted
Ian Fleming into world-wide fame. He was the undisputed leader
in his field. As always happens many others tried to copy him,
and spy stories were all around us in the late 60's. But he
always remained one of a kind. Try as they might, none of his
imitators could ever match his work. It was as though he had a
secret advantage, a secret weapon of his own--and, my friends, he
did!
In writing his stories, Ian Fleming was drawing upon his own
secret weapon. That weapon was knowledge. Fleming had been a
high-ranking officer of Britain's crack Intelligence agency
called MI-5. It was the British who practically invented and
perfected the modern concept of Intelligence, and to this day
British Intelligence remains the equal of any in the world.
When Fleming left Her Majesty's Secret Service to become a
writer, he was severely limited in what he could publish. He was
bound by the restrictions of the British "Official Secrets Act."
Under that Act, Fleming would have been liable for punishment for
revealing any official secret without authorization. And so Ian
Fleming, the former British Intelligence officer, became what is
known as a "fictionalizer"--that is, he started with factual
knowledge but rearranged and modified it in order to create
startling stories of fiction. He was always extremely careful
about how he did this. He always knew that he was skirting the
fringes of the Official Secrets Act. He could not afford to make
a mistake, because it would have meant prison for him and
possible forfeiture of pension rights; and so he always altered
every situation, every secret technology, and every personality
enough to avoid revealing actual secrets. It was a long and
meticulous process both to protect himself and to make each final
story readable. For that reason Fleming completed a new James
Bond novel only about once a year. If it had all been
imagination, as many people believe, he would have been capable
of producing a new book every few months, making himself far
richer. But because his stories were all rooted in fact, secret
fact, he did not dare speed up and run the risk of making a
mistake.
Ian Fleming had two purposes in writing his famous series of
spy novels. One purpose, of course, was to earn a very
comfortable living; but beyond that he was also trying to subtly
open the eyes of the reading public by the medium of fiction.
Because of the Official Secrets Act he could not publish the
facts that he knew as fact without modification, so he did what
he felt was the next best thing, and that was to use his stories
to open our minds to at least think in terms which were otherwise
hidden from us. Fleming truly believed that this was something
which somehow had to be done, because knowing what he knew he was
not an optimistic man.
More than three decades ago he could see that the public was
beginning to be left behind by secret new weapons, new
technologies, and new techniques to enslave us all. A public
awakening was the only hope he could see to prevent eventual
disaster, and so beginning in the early 50's Fleming started
writing exciting fiction in order to hint at secret facts. His
plan was "Fictionalize to open eyes." By the early 60's the
one-man campaign of Ian Fleming was starting to gather steam.
His fictional hero James Bond started gaining popularity in
ever-wider circles; and even though his exploits were understood
to be fiction, people were beginning to think of possibilities
which they had never seen before. James Bond movies were in the
works. After years of gradual growth, the power of Ian Fleming's
fiction was about to explode into a world-wide craze. Countless
millions were on the verge of being encouraged to think
unthinkable thoughts about what goes on in secret. Simply by
encouraging people to think new thoughts for themselves, Ian
Fleming was endangering secret plans of very powerful men--and
he almost got away with it because they were slow to realize what
he was doing. But just as the James Bond craze was beginning,
Ian Fleming's plan was brought to an end. Sixteen years ago next
month, on August 12, 1964, Ian Fleming died an untimely death at
age 56.
By making us think, Ian Fleming had posed a real danger to
secret long-range plans of a powerful few. And even after he was
removed from the scene, his fictional efforts to awaken us could
not be stopped overnight. The momentum of public interest was
just too great because he had caught the imagination of millions
upon millions. The James Bond craze could not be stopped, and so
the other choice was to control it. Experts in propaganda and
public deception studied the problem and quickly hit on the
solution. Fleming's plan had been "Fictionalize to open eyes."
He wanted to make us see possibilities which were being hidden
from us otherwise; but with him out of the way, the new plan
became: "Fictionalize to close eyes." It was a plan to make
secrets more secure than ever by making the truth unbelievable to
us, and this technique of blinding us through fiction has been a
major factor on the American scene now for 15 years.
A perfect example of all of this took place with a book
Fleming published 21 years ago in 1959. It was titled "GOLD
FINGER." The starting point for the book was knowledge about
certain secrets. Fleming knew that there was a long-range plan
to create monetary chaos for private gain and power. He also
knew that a central feature of the plan was to be the secret
disappearance of America's monetary gold hoard at Fort Knox, and
he knew that the kingpin of this international plot was a man
with legendary greed for gold. His name: DAVID ROCKEFELLER. It
was a plan that was totally unsuspected by the public. It was
still the Eisenhower era, the heyday of the so-called "almighty
dollar." The dollar was good as gold, because it was backed by
the world's largest monetary gold hoard. Fort Knox was thought
to be impregnable; and in those days, my friends, no one dared
speak ill of the Four Rockefeller Brothers.
Ian Fleming decided to write a book that would begin to alert
people to what was afoot. He could not tell the whole story, nor
tell it as fact because of the Official Secrets Act; but by
fictionalizing he was able to cause people to think of
possibilities which would never have occurred to them otherwise.
For example, in the 50's it was a rare American who considered
even the possibility of monetary turmoil. The dollar was good as
gold, and that was that. Why even think about gold? Individual
citizens could not own it except in jewelry. Wasn't all the rest
of it thought to be sealed up in Fort Knox? Everyone knew no one
could get in there, and so we didn't even think about it. But in
his book GOLD FINGER, Fleming brought several key thoughts to our
minds. He devised a fictional scheme to show that Fort Knox
might not be impregnable after all. He raised the question:
"What would happen to the dollar and other currencies if the Fort
Knox gold were no longer available?" And he proposed the
unthinkable thought that someone, if they were rich enough and
greedy enough, might want to get their hands on America's gold.
The actual GOLD FINGER story, of course, was fiction; but the
basic points which I have just mentioned were fact. GOLD FINGER
was published in 1959; and barely two years later in 1961, the
hemorrhaging of America's monetary gold supply began. Agents of
David Rockefeller within the United States Government provided a
cloak of authority called the "London Gold Pool Agreement"; and
then for seven years until 1968, big Army trucks loaded with gold
bullion rolled out of Fort Knox constantly--and all without a
word to the public!
Some of the gold shipments during those seven years were
recorded on a list kept by the United States Mint. Almost
without exception the shipments listed went to the New York Assay
Office, where they disappeared without any further accounting.
As you may recall, the New York Assay Office was the focus of a
scandal in December 1978 involving missing gold. Over 5,000
ounces had simply disappeared; but that, my friends, was a very
small tip of a very large iceberg, and so the controversy over
the missing millions in gold at the New York Assay Office was
quickly smoothed over and covered up. They could not afford to
allow any real investigation which might let the public know the
truth. According to the official list of shipments I mentioned
earlier, a large fraction of America's monetary gold went to the
New York Assay Office in the 60's. There it disappeared, never
to be seen again.
But, my friends, the real situation was even worse. Long ago
my sources gave me hard evidence of many large gold shipments
from Fort Knox which were not even listed. Five years ago this
month in AUDIO LETTER No. 2 I revealed a specific example of
this. It was a shipment on January 20, 1965, in which four (4)
tractor-trailers loaded up at Fort Knox and then headed for
railroad tracks across the river at Jeffersonville, Indiana. My
sources provided me with details, including photographs, of the
operation. But the shipment was one of many which did not show
on any official Government list of shipments.
In June 1975, Mr. Edward Durell and my other associates were
able to confront officials of the United States Mint with this
example of missing shipments, and for once the confrontation took
place under circumstances in which the Mint was under great
pressure to respond. In the most specific terms the Bureau of
the Mint was asked what was shipped out of Fort Knox in the four
tractor-trailers on January 20, 1965. The written answer dated
June 19, 1975 came from the then Director of the United States
Mint, Mrs. Mary Brooks. She confirmed that this unlisted
shipment amounted to more than one and three-quarter (1-3/4)
million ounces of gold--and, my friends, it was not junk gold
melted down from old coins which were confiscated from Americans
in 1934. The shipment was part of America's true monetary gold,
good delivery gold which is .995 fine or better. After this
admission in writing about an enormous secret shipment of gold
out of Fort Knox, one would have thought that there would be
fireworks, but not so!
My friend Mr. Durell showered the appropriate officials
throughout the Government with this evidence of massive fraud at
Fort Knox, and he notified the major media and all of the
appropriate leaders in Congress about this evidence. For reasons
which I will explain later in this message, I believe it's time
to call attention to one of these people. He is Senator William
Proxmire of Wisconsin, Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee.
Proxmire loves to parade as a great defender of our financial
interests in Washington. He's famous for his so-called "Golden
Fleece Award." Proxmire searches through the Federal Budget with
a fine-tooth comb, and he's always able to find some project or
contract which rightly or wrongly will look ridiculous to the
public. He then trots it out, announces how much it costs, and
with a great flourish gives it his Golden Fleece Award. By this
and other means Proxmire is a master at maintaining his image as
a protector of the American economy.
But if ever a situation deserved the Proxmire Golden Fleece
Award, it is the FORT KNOX GOLD SCANDAL. The petty examples
usually chosen by Proxmire fleece the American public out of
perhaps hundreds of thousands or a few million dollars. It makes
good publicity for Proxmire, but it's insignificant. By
contrast, the Fort Knox Gold Scandal is fleecing every one of us
out of the shirt on our back. It has undermined the dollar
itself, which is on its way to destruction. It has set off
ever-worsening inflation even while our economy is stagnating.
The Gold Scandal is fleecing us all, but what has Senator William
Proxmire done about that??
Let me tell you what he has, and has not, done. For more than
five years Proxmire has been among the top American leaders who
have been kept informed about major developments and evidence in
the Gold Scandal. He has been given the evidence I mentioned
earlier about the missing shipment from Fort Knox, as well as
other evidence of major discrepancies; but up to now, Proxmire
has kept his lips sealed about discrepancies about America's gold
supply--with one exception. That exception took place in
December 1978. Word had leaked out about the 5,000-or so missing
ounces of gold at the New York Assay Office worth over $3,000,000
at today's prices. As Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee,
Proxmire immediately jumped on the story. Frowning in
disapproval, he proclaimed that this would have to be looked
into. Hearing those words from the champion of the Golden Fleece
Award, the public relaxed and quickly forgot about it. And
almost as quickly, Senator William Proxmire made sure he forgot
about it too. To this day, no real investigation has ever taken
place over the missing gold at the New York Assay Office.
Proxmire's failure to follow up that $3,000,000 gold
discrepancy was bad enough, but it's nothing compared to his
apparent disinterest in investigating the truth about the Fort
Knox Gold Scandal. The case of the missing Fort Knox shipment is
a case in point. At today's prices, that one shipment alone was
worth more than one billion dollars ($1,000,000,000)--not a mere
million but 1000 times a million! And that, in truth, was only
one example. There were many unreported shipments like that.
That is why the Treasury figures, which show a huge remaining
American gold hoard, are a fraud--a total fraud. And that's why
the United States could auction off only a small amount of junk
gold over a period of time and then had to stop. And that's why
the United States dollar is no longer "as good as gold"; instead,
it's fast becoming worth less than the paper it's printed on.
Senator William Proxmire, like many others trusted by the
American public, has been given massive evidence about all of
this; but his actions so far have helped only those who have
taken our own gold in order to fleece us of everything we own.
Later in this message I will have more to say about Senator
William Proxmire and the Fort Knox Gold Scandal.
But for now I want to finish the story of Ian Fleming's
aborted efforts to alert the public about things like these. As
I already explained, his principle was "Fictionalize to open
eyes"; but after his untimely death in 1964 his stories were
seized upon and warped, especially in movies, for the opposite
purpose. The new purpose became "Fictionalize to CLOSE eyes."
Nothing could be done to alter and neutralize Fleming's books
once they had been published, so instead attention was drawn away
from the books to the James Bond movies; and as the movies were
in preparation, disinformation agents were planted on the scene
to guide the process. As a result, the James Bond who emerged on
film was a very different character from the one in Fleming's
novels. The basic story lines remained the same, but in many
subtle ways the psychology was radically changed. The movies
retained the adventure, fast action, dazzling secret
technologies, and bold plots which Fleming had pioneered; but by
clever use of satirical humor, every James Bond movie ended up by
laughing at itself. Secret weapons were exaggerated or twisted
so as to make them entertaining but also ridiculous; and by
filling the movies with strange characters and never-ending
gimmicks, viewers were distracted from the underlying warnings of
the basic plot.
The GOLD FINGER story was a perfect example of all this.
Fleming's original novel called attention to something which most
readers would never have thought about otherwise. That was the
potential relationship between Fort Knox gold and international
monetary chaos, and through his fictional plot he also planted
the idea that the legendary Fort Knox bullion depository might
not be invulnerable after all. But these lessons were rarely, if
ever, realized by those who saw only the movie; instead, the
typical viewer walked out of the movie laughing. It was obvious
that what he had seen could happen only in fiction, and from that
point onward he was programmed to react with disbelief if he
should ever hear of tampering with Fort Knox gold. Such a thing
could only be fiction--it was just too ridiculous ever to really
happen.
This is the attitude I encountered more than seven years ago
when I began giving public warnings about deliberate plans for
economic chaos. I myself was first alerted to the Fort Knox Gold
Scandal by none other than British Intelligence in London after
completing a secret mission for Queen Elizabeth in Zaire; and in
my book THE CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE DOLLAR, I outlined the overall
plan, including the unseen role of America's gold. I had one
major advantage which Ian Fleming did not have. The United
States does not yet have an Official Secrets Act like that of
Britain, and so I was not forced to fictionalize. Instead I was
able to give the real plans and real names of those responsible
for things to come.
The prototype for Ian Fleming's GOLD FINGER of two decades ago
was none other than David Rockefeller, and in my book I showed in
detail how he played his kingpin role in the plan to destroy our
economy. I described how this was leading to a collapsing
dollar, skyrocketing gold prices, a stagnating economy, spiraling
financial problems for State and local governments, urban unrest,
and eventually NUCLEAR WAR. But when David Rockefeller himself
was interviewed about my book, even he resorted to the technique
"Fictionalize to close eyes." His comment about THE CONSPIRACY
AGAINST THE DOLLAR was: "Interesting science fiction."
But, my friends, the truth is always stranger than fiction.
Today it is fiction that we believe, and fact that we don't
believe. Most people still believe the fiction that David
Rockefeller himself is still alive, but he actually died in a
secret coup d'etat nearly a year and a half ago, as I revealed in
AUDIO LETTER No. 43. What we see today is no longer David
Rockefeller but only his image. My friends, the truth is the
truth, no matter what we choose to believe; and what the late
David Rockefeller dismissed as "Interesting science fiction"
seven years ago is coming true today. Yesterday we would not
believe. Today we are suffering. Tomorrow it will be too
late--if we do not act NOW.
<...>
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 08:03:23 PST
From: Jason Cooper <lord@tradent.wimsey.bc.ca>
Subject: *** BUSSARD RAMSCOOP ***
Newsgroups: sci.space
This is just a quick repeat of a message I sent earlier this week. Can
anybody in this group help me with the physics aspects of the Bussard
ramscoop? For those who don't know, the ramscoop collects charged H
(charged by it) from the interstellar material with a huge magnetic field
(moving, at reasonably high velocities, that is), thus deflecting that
hydrogen into the engine itself, where it is fused for thrust. I'm
seeking assistance with the fusing itself. Can anybody here explain to
me (in reasonably plain language, I'm in Grade 11 (though I _can_
understand most grade 12 concepts, or perhaps better (try me))) what the
fusion reaction produced in the sun requires (IE do I just need to
pressure up a bunch of plain old Hydrogen?) and what the _exact_
reactions are that occur resulting in how much energy (MeV please)
produced? Anybody know much about the Bussard ramscoop here and just
feel like helping me? Oh yeah, I should mention that this is for a
science fair project, which is why I am looking for detailed descriptions
of reactions, etc, as, firstly, I need to explain this to a judge, and
secondly, I need to know all I can. Thank you for your time.
Jason Cooper
[mail replies please]
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Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 07:07:50 GMT
From: "Simon E. Booth" <sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu>
Subject: I thinI see our problem. (Was Re: Terminal Velocity of DCX?
Newsgroups: sci.space
In article <ewright.725129915@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
>In <!jt240c@rpi.edu> strider@clotho.acm.rpi.edu (Greg Moore) writes:
>
>> In reality it sounds more like you are talking about DC-10,
>>DC-12, etc.
>> Unless you are saying that a 747 is the same plane as a DC-3
>>was.
>> If your claims are about 50 years from now, or even 20
>>eyars from now, I'll buy them.
>
>I think it would do you a world of good to go out to your local
>airport and look around.
>
>Do you have any idea how many DC-3s are still flying? After 50
>years?
>
>And the 747, which you cite as an example of a modern airplane,
>is well over 20 years old!
>
And don't forget the G and H model B-52'as. Those are at least 30 years
old and still flying.
I think I read somewhere that many old planes are so durable that the primary
problem in keeping them flying isn't how well they were designed but
maintaining a supply of spare parts (i.e. WWII aircraft still flyable today).
Supposedly this is a similar problem for the shuttle--only 5 flight
capable orbiters built in past 13 years makes a very rare craft, and thus
creates a maintainence problem due to their limited numbers.
Simon
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 07:36:49 GMT
From: Bill Blum <blumb@sage.cc.purdue.edu>
Subject: Justification
Newsgroups: sci.space
In article <Bzvn8D.JB4.1@cs.cmu.edu> roberts@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov (John Roberts) writes:
>
>Has anyone had personal experience with magnet schools? I'm curious about
>whether they provide any benefit.
>
Well, I did not attend a magnet school, but I was part of a gifted/talented
program in grades K-8.
My only complaint was: Some programs (such as the one I was subjected to)
do not take into account that not all students will be interested in the
same things.
We were taught Spanish, we produced plays, we saw nature films.
A friend of mine and I grew immensely bored with the material presented and
spent our time in the library, reading books like Issac Asimov, etc. I was
never given a reason to WANT to learn Spanish, or to learn about nature, or
to care about drama.
I'm sure that magnet schools would fare better in this regard---they are
aimed towards what some students WANT.
--
Bill Blum * "God willing...we shall return."
Purdue University * Gene Cernan, The Moon, Dec 1972(BSEE P.U. 56)
School of Nuclear Engineering * Member of the SEDS National Board
blumb@sage.cc.purdue.edu * Ad Astra Per Ardua!!
------------------------------
Date: 26 Dec 92 17:38:18
From: David.Anderman@ofa123.fidonet.org
Subject: LEI financing
Newsgroups: sci.space
You are absolutely correct - that NASA does not necessarily have to be the
agency that purchases lunar science data from the private sector. Other
agencies, such as the US Geological Survey, are also under consideration.
However, political realities may force NASA (and one of its field centers,in
particular) to be the agency with the responsbility to purchase the data,
under the final version of the Lunar Resources Data Purchase Act.
Besides, NASA is *already* purchasing science data from space from a private
vendor.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
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